The Black Dog

June 20, 2014

Last weekend was the Black Dog ride in Hood River, our home town.  Thanks so much to the organizers of this great event for letting us setup a tent there, we’ll be back for sure.  We wrote some additional pre-orders and got to connect with a bunch of local NW riders.

I rode the Black Dog myself on Saturday, which was my first time on any kind of organized ride.  It was a really fun 160 mile loop up in the Mt Hood area with a mix of pavement, jeep track, and trails.  Good times.  This was also my first time using one of these old-school, hand-operated, paper scroll charts for navigation:

Production Schedule

Things are moving forward with the bag production.  All but one of the fabrics we’re using are currently in production.  The only thing we’re still waiting on is a replacement for the 210D ripstop on the roll-tops.  We ran into some issues with this material wearing through and/or actually tearing in Moab.  So we’re still on the hunt for something better.  There are plenty of options, of course, but we specifically need to find something that is actually in-stock at the fabric mill, because we don’t have time to make a new batch from scratch.  As of right now sourcing this fabric is our biggest challenge time-wise.   David at the factory has been generating some options.

Assuming we can track down a good fabric for the roll-tops, we expect all the materials to arrive at the factory by the end of June, and the final bag production to happen in the first three weeks of July.  Andrew will fly over for a final QC check (and also to finalize the two Reckless designs), and then we’ll air-freight in enough inventory to fill the pre-order demand which has accumulated over the past month.

Air freight is expensive (still waiting on an actual quote, but it’ll be a lot), so with that plus the higher first-run production costs and the pre-order discounts we’ve been offering, we won’t make money on the early rounds of shipments.  The idea for these early sales is just to get the product out in the field, on bikes, and in the hands of riders as soon as possible.  What we learned at Overland Expo and the Black Dog is that the product itself is by far our best marketing tool, we just need to get it out there.

We swallowed hard this week, and made our first deposit for the wedges and mounting pucks with a machine shop in Portland.  The first batch will be done in late July, so we’ll setup an assembly line to combine the bags/frames and have the first batch of bags packed and mailed in the first week of August.  If had to guess I’d say Aug 8 looks like the most likely ship date right now.  We will keep everyone apprised.

Small Reckless

We’ve received several requests to create a smaller Reckless bag, something in the 35-40L range, to complement the larger 60L Reckless which is already in development.  We started on the smaller Reckless last week.  Here are some of the early sketches and paper patterns laid out on my 450 EXC.  The overall concept is similar to the large reckless, with removable drybags, molle, etc.  We’re hoping to get back up to the shop with Chip in the next few weeks and get a prototype underway.

Also working on revisions to the large Reckless as well.

OIA Visit & Warehouse

With all our inventory now scheduled to show up in Portland sometime in the next few months, we’re going to need somewhere to put it.  We met with OIA again, the 3PL we’ve been working with in Portland, to take things to the next level.  Originally we planned to have the product delivered to Hood River, do our final assembly here in the gorge, and then deliver the inventory to OIA once it was fully assembled and ready for shipment.  However the warehouse space that we were looking at last week fell through because we couldn’t agree on lease renewal terms.  So now we’re going to have everything shipped directly to OIA in Portland, and we’ll do our final assembly there in the OIA warehouse.

We spent some time with the crew at OIA measuring and weighing all our items so we can get precise shipping quotes.  There have been a number of questions coming in via the website about “how much will it cost to ship to X.”  We should be able to answer those questions soon.

Jack and Becky

Jack and Becky from Stevenson, WA stopped by to pickup some samples to take to the Wallowa rally this weekend.  Jack was our fist “unsupervised installer,” he has Rally Raid racks on a KTM 690 Enduro R.  The wedge bolts directly to the RR racks, without using the mounting pucks.  Here’s what Jack had to say after the install (unedited):

Super easy to install plates, drilled one more hole in my RR rack.  Three bolts seem plenty secure. When I get my panniers I will probably add another. When I install the plates again I will shim (fender washers)  between the UHMW plate an the metal plate on my RR rack.  The round tubing sticks out further than the metal plate and causes the UHMW plate to bow.  Plus it will allow the plates to stack up with a hard stop on the bolt, if you know what I mean.  And of course shorter bolts with nylock nuts.

Rack Fitment Update

We finally got a good up-close look at a Givi rack system, and it looks like this is going to work with our wedge, which is great news.  The little attachments and rubber nubs are all easily removable, so the wedge should mount on there quite easily.

On the curved-pannier rack solution, we received some good ideas via email, and we also received one of the Twisted Throttle/SW Motech Adapters in the mail, which looks like it will work with our wedge-mount.  So that’s good news, plus anyone who uses this adapter won’t need the mounting pucks, which saves $65 off the price of the bags and helps to offset the cost of the adapter.  Still it’s a bike-specific adapter, so it only works on certain years and models.  We’re on the hunt for other solutions.

We’ve had a few inquiries about the Moose Expedition Rack, shown below:

We think this rack will fit, but can’t confirm until we see one in person.  For this rack, we’re thinking that you wouldn’t need the wedge or mounting pucks, but would instead attach the bag directly to the existing mounting system that comes with the rack.  In other words, drill and bolt the removable part of the rack directly to the pannier.  If anyone wants to try that please be sure to let us know, because we can reduce the cost of the panniers to reflect the fact that you won’t need wedges/pucks.

Loans and Capital

We’ve applied for an SBA backed loan with two different banks, and we’re anxiously awaiting their response.  We also have a visit next week from a good friend & possible co-investor who’s coming out to Hood River.

We’ll be at the Touratech/NW Overland Rally in Plain, WA next weekend.  If you’re there, stop by!

Racks on Racks on Racks

June 7, 2014

We’re getting a lot of questions about which racks the wedge-mount  works on.

There are an enormous number of different racks out there, and within our group of riding buddies we have only a handful of racks to test.  At Overland Expo we saw a bunch of different setups but we were busy at the booth and didn’t get to test as many as we hoped.

Here’s what we know so far:

Wolfman: confirmed fit

Touratech: Should fit without issues

Hepco Becker: Confirmed fit

Happy Trails SU: confirmed fit

Happy Trails SL: Should fit

Happy Trails Gen 5: should fit.  Drill a couple holes in the metal piece to correspond with the slots on the wedge.

Rally Raid: Confirmed fit, does not require our mounting pucks (let us know that you have this rack in the “notes” section of your order we’ll reduce the price of the panniers by $65 and not send the 8 pucks).

Andy Strapz: Confirmed fit.  Grind down the bolt in the middle of the rack just a little bit.  This doesn’t affect the usability of the bolt.

SW Motech: Currently our mounting pucks do not fit on this rack because the tubing is too wide.  The wedge would work great but not the pucks.  We are working with Twisted Throttle to come up with a solution, and we expect to have one by the time the bags ship.  It would be relatively easy to make a simple bracket out of aluminum bar.

Another rack we tested at Overland Expo.  Not sure of the make, but it’s a confirmed fit.

Curved Pannier Racks: The wedge requires a flat surface to mount against, so bikes that have curved pannier racks present a challenge.  Here are some pics:

So far we’ve found two possible solutions:

1) An exhaust lowering kit.  These are $90 from Happy Trails.  I have one on my BMW R1150GS Adventure.  The make them for other bikes too.  An advantage of these is that you can run the same capacity panniers on both sides.  Here is a LINK.

2) The SW Motech adapter sold by Twisted Throttle.  Here is the LINK.   We just ordered one of these, and will test it out with the wedge in the next week or two.

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We’re keenly interested in any/all ideas for fitting the wedge on curved racks.  If you have an idea, we’d really love to hear it.

If anyone has a rack that’s not listed above and you’re wondering if it will work, please send us a pic and we’ll let you know.  We’ll collect the pics and start posting them on the new Fitment Page on our website.  Also, if you have a bike with an unusual rack system and you want to fabricate your own pucks, let us know and we can save you $65 on the panniers.

Mounting Hardware

In the “last minute design changes” department, we switched our hardware to metric thanks to the many suggestions on the Mosko advrider.com thread.  We also switched the mounting screws to stainless.  We debated switching from a philips to hex, but stayed with philips because the hex heads are a much smaller diameter.

New Home?

We looked at a warehouse space in White Salmon this week.  It’s nothing fancy, but it has a sink and bathroom, and comes with 3/4 of an acre in a really cool, central location.  With all that extra space outside we could offer fellow riders a place to camp  when they come through the Gorge.  Hoping we get this one.  We need to find something soon.

Financing

We’re looking at some options for getting additional financing.  Andrew and I had enough in savings to get this far, and we have enough to get into business with the bags, but the riding apparel we’re developing for next year is going to require a bigger investment.  We’ll be making deposits this summer to purchase fabric.   We’ve been talking to a bank about possibly getting a loan, and we also talked to someone this week who might be interested in investing.  More to come on that front.

Photo Shoot

Our good friend John Laptad — a professional photographer (LINK) and fellow moto junkie — offered to take some pics as a trade.   It was awesome to watch John do his thing, and the pics came out great.

Visitors

We had some visitors here in the Gorge over the last few weeks.  First Jack and his wife rode up from Stevenson on their 690 Enduros to check out the bags.  They decided on the Backcountry 35 Panniers and Backcountry 40 Duffle for both bikes.

Then Loren stopped by with his DR350 to check out the bags and take a closer look at the wedge-mount so he can fabricate a custom rack.

New Bike

Also this week we had a new addition to the Mosko Moto family.  Now we just need to figure out how to mount some Scout 25s.

Next weekend is the Black Dog Dualsport  here in Hood River.  We’ll be there with the bags.  If you’re in the area please stop by and introduce yourself!